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Ground floor. Digital money called-. They're each lying in their beds just, kind of, chilling out. Couple tables, you know, you got your two beds. Okay. And I said, "Yeah." It was like, uh, wh- incongruous noise, make it stop. ... he picks up the phone from the end of her bed and hands it to her and is like, "Can you pull up the screen?". (laughs). It's playing off in this way. Revulsion. No signup or install needed. So, for Zooko, it's, it's very unacceptable. (laughs) We're gonna do a new ceremony, deploy newer proof cryptography. And while our current effort to develop a covid-19 vaccine involves thousands of people working around the clock, the mumps vaccine was developed almost exclusively by one person: Maurice Hilleman. Ransomware. Yeah, he is. ‎Show Radiolab, Ep The Ceremony - Jul 14, 2017 ‎Today, paranoia sets in: we head to The Ceremony, the top-secret, three-day launch of a new currency, wizards and math included. Back to the top of the order. Probably this one. Almost like cash. It was after, and it was very much a response to that, definitely. ... got the compute node, got back in the van, got back to Boulder. PBS won four prizes in the 2021 Alfred I. DuPont-Columbia Awards, an annual recognition of some of the best work in the reaml of audio and video journalism. We’re all still processing what happened on January 6th. It was a little bit exhausting trying to be paranoid, and it-. Uh, some. Okay. I groaned and said, uh, oh there's work to do. He wants to take as much of the trust, you gotta trust me, out of it as possible. He shares his name with another man: Abdul Latif Nasser, detainee 244 at Guantanamo Bay. Denver Ceremony station recordings were created by media maker Nathaniel Kramer, with help from Daniel Cooper. Okay, we will be back and Robert will be back with me, uh, in a couple weeks. Wait, wait, wait, I know it's not coming from the mic. Uh, Robert Krulwich will be back with us very soon. Diagnostics complete. And I talk to Morgan all the time. So basically what happens is, like, Morgan comes back from her walk. I didn't get to tell you that we have to do it again. All you need to know is that Zcash promises to give you decentralization with this like, buffet of privacy. Now, yes, a lot of people when they hear about digital money, they think-. Yeah, you're not gonna miss much, uh, that's, uh, that's planned or scheduled. Okay. Denver Ceremony station recordings were created by media maker Nathaniel Kramer, with help from Daniel Cooper. At this point, the cameras have, like, swiveled so they're focused on the phone. So the audio coming out of her phone is not originating from in the room, it's, it's somehow the Google ch- Hangout chat? This where computer science and mathematics start to overlap into wizardry here. You know what? Today, paranoia sets in: we head to The Ceremony, the top-secret, three-day launch of a new currency, wizards and math included. New York Public Radio transcripts are created on a rush deadline, often by contractors. Do you see who made their piece of the key? Anyway, once the computer is done burning to this DVD, the guy at station one takes it an walks it to another computer. Oh my God. Um, may- I think it's a good time to just say what was happening. When, which is, uh, w- why is my voice echoing back at me? Radiolab Yesterday at 12:45 PM In this week's episode we head to The Ceremony, the top-secret, thre ... e-day launch of a new currency — wizards and math included. And their nigh vision security cameras. (laughs) We were like, okay, next stop. All good men [crosstalk 00:34:01] country. Like the hackers have been had and they just realized it. I mean, I cannot miss this. Um, I'm calling from sunny Seattle, Washington. Cat walking across the computer. Created in 2002 by host Jad Abumrad, the program began as an exploration of scientific inquiry. He mics us both up. You're, like-, ... no humans can have sex to make this baby. I can't take the battery out of it." Wait, yes. Was to acquire a computer. It's a hot topic on Wall Street right now, it's very interesting. Where's the, the special box? Yeah, I start, like, pin pointing it to, like, the, the part of the room that has the security cameras monitor. Uh, we will link you to it from radiolab.org. Yet together, they're doing the math that's getting closer and closer and closer to the final key that will launch Zcash. So even though Zooko's gonna record all of this footage, put it up on line, l- later somebody who's gonna be watching that could be like... Like, sure, you say you recorded everything but maybe you manipulated the footage. Even if Zcash doesn't make it, even if, you know, it collapses it seemed like a historical moment. Radiolab is co-hosted by Lulu Miller and Latif Nasser. Here's the decision, here's what we're gonna do. The shape of, what I mean is, the shape of what's, of, of possibility, of-. I wanna see what's going on. Um, she's sittin' on the giant, I have a big floor pillow, like a Turkish floor pillow. Give me a second. Six. But... Zcash has its own flaw. ... if you swipe down there's that thing that's next to the thing. (laughs) Okay. Yeah, it was late, and, um, I took the computer that we used, the so called compute node, and then from that moment forward, I kept that thing like within arms reach for f-, for 48 hours or so. The show challenges its listeners’ preconceived notions about how the world works. Now it becomes a more civilized conversation of, um, what are we gonna do? And then it's, like, wait who else did you talk to? Was your, ooh your dad was kind of hacked. Jan 16, 2021. Back to work. Like, I remember when Morgan was telling me this story, thinking, if someone had hacked into Morgan's phone, how long had they been hacked in for? No. And in my eyes Morgan has become, like, the historian of the world of digital money. Especially now that they have this phone thing happen. Is anything gonna happen if I go take a little walk? Hey, I think I need to use my paper map. I think it stopped. Red Herring. And sour cream, but he's dipping, he's dipping pork rinds in the sour cream. Want to explain again why you're keeping it away from the wall? But, there are companies now that actually specialize in doing the network analysis of the Bitcoin block chain and they do it for companies who want to, um, make sure that they're not transacting with, you know, criminals, people who have had, th- they're specifi-. Spread out all over, like, the barista's area, he's like up in their grill. And each of the other five participants had to do the same thing. Wizard hat. Gandalf hat. He figured if these people have hacked into Morgan's phone, we have so many security measures in place that we can keep going and we'll figure this out later. So, Morgan and I went to grad school together at NYU so I guess I've known her for almost 11 years. Oh, oh crap, you exchanged those text messages that weren't on Signal. Millions and millions and millions of new coins. Support Radiolab by becoming a member today at Radiolab.org/donate. They still have another full day of the ceremony left. Denver Ceremony station recordings were created by media maker Nathaniel Kramer, with help from Daniel Cooper. That person was kind of hacked. Soren Wheeler is senior editor. Denver Ceremony station recordings were created by media maker Nathaniel Kramer, with help from Daniel Cooper. The hijackers held the files ransom, demanding roughly 650 euros paid in Bitcoin. The most secure, most sophisticated cryptographic ceremony that's every been performed. Our fact-checker is Michelle Harris. (laughs). And then she's like, "Are you ready to hear the story?". You know, this shakes your core. Support Radiolab by becoming a member today at Radiolab.org/donate. I mean it really, it's deet de-deet deet de-deet de-deet. And that's a message by which you could use an antenna. And he sits down at the Google Hangout computer. I think privacy is a human right and that it's a necessary condition for the exercise of, of free choice, of morality and of political participation and of everything that's, uh, of intimacy, everything that's most important it as humans. Halfway through, something strange happens. What's running? Okay, so here we are. So what we did was, we stripped the room of all of the lamps and the telephone. And that question-. It's like 7:00 at night. But today, a story from you. And she goes, "Okay, uh, I need you to power it down and put it in another room under a pillow. And this security camera set up was, uh, one of the key points in trying to create what Morgan was talking about earlier. I don't know where it's feeding back from. And how does it resolve? There. Download the app. All of the participants have a similar role: their machines randomly sample a “shard” of the toxic waste and use this shard to perform computations. Test, test. And she-. Reported by Molly Webster. Traders here working the phones say a lot of their customers are freaked out. And how do I prove to all of the people that might want to use Zcash later that in this tiny little window of, of creation nothing untoward has happened that, that the number has never been tampered with, that human eyes have never been laid upon it. (laughs) Like, that has so much of my work on it and my-. With help from Sohum Pawar, Rebecca Chaisson, Nigar Fatali, Phoebe Wang and Katie Ferguson. That there was an attacker and they screwed up and accidentally turned on the speaker. And, and then Zooko said to me... Would you like to donate your phone to science? Was that, was that for you? Way to go, Nat. Yeah I love the Gandalf hat. You know, that the entire creation of this system remains pure. (laughs) Yeah. For example with some crazy microphone you could listen in to the computer's processor and if you heard something like... Oh, that's Diffie-Hellman key exchange. Especially now that they have the phone thing. To give you the best possible experience, this site uses cookies. In November of 2016, journalist Morgen Peck showed up at her friend Molly Webster's apartment in Brooklyn, told her to take her battery out of her phone, and began to tell her about The Ceremony, a moment last fall when a group of, well, let's just call them wizards, came together in an undisclosed location to launch a new currency. So if the goal on some level, at the very beginning of this conversation was to inspire the community to then use it, it seems like it, it has, it has done that. That's so good. The show is known for its deep-dive journalism and innovative sound design. Denver Ceremony station recordings were created by media maker Nathaniel Kramer, with help from Daniel Cooper. The DOW traders are standing there watching in amazement and I don't blame 'em. The podcast Radiolab has been added to your home screen. So we all piled into the van, set off. Denver Ceremony station recordings were created by media maker Nathaniel Kramer, with help from Daniel Cooper. More information about Sloan at www.sloan.org. Or... oh yeah, this is obviously figuring out the full 40960-bit RSA decryption key. So that if there were any hackers they wouldn't be able to track where we were physically. Yeah we're going to the computer store. What all, what all apps are running on this phone? Okay. The Ceremony Today, paranoia sets in: we head to The Ceremony, the top-secret, three-day launch of a new currency, wizards and math included. Come to this, uh, coffee store in Boulder. Not me, not anyone else. This, by the way, has a pretty cool name. Oh my God. The Denver Ceremony station recordings were created by media maker Nathanial Kramer, thanks Nat. 14 recommendations. Over the years it has evolved to become a platform for long-form journalism and storytelling. You can concentrate on, on careful observing. I take a dollar bill out of my pocket, I walk down the street, I give it to someone, they give it to someone. So, what actually happened was we went to this bonfire (laughs), uh, and then by the end of it, uh, everybody was sort of rushing off. Yeah, and like, suddenly we're all vulnerable. Wait, you have to go through all of this again? #science #technology #philosophy #education #radiolab Today, paranoia sets in: we head to The Ceremony, the top-secret, three-day launch of a new currency, wizards and math included. So everyone's got their compute node powered on. But we almost have to examine the act of sex to make sure-. And as the hours roll by, things are going really well, people are getting their math done, they're passing along these answers, they're getting closer to having their key, when, maybe half way into the process, things get strange. Support Radiolab by becoming a member today at Radiolab.org/donate. So what happens is, the software I run on my connected computer-. But Bitcoin has not gon away. Preparing the, doing my computations, now. Which involved her flying across the country to live in a hotel room for a number of days with a bunch of strangers and then something happened because she came back, um, seemingly paranoid, at least s- in so much as she was hiding phones under pillows. Before we even started. Overview of Ceremony Design. And so, I'm gonna cover my keyboard with this special box. Because what if somebody's like, tracking what he's looking at. What kind of hacked would we have been? The idea was, nobody will actually have the key itself. But just what is The Ceremony, and what does it achieve? Whew. That's what money is, is the agreement between people to use it and to honor that sort of social contract and the creation of value, to me that's like alchemy. But they don't really reach a conclusion. (laughs). No. A feedback loop started echoing. I have to say you do, um, everyone's like pretty excited I'm talking to a guy named Zooko. It's been a decade; it's still around. ... life. So that's gonna be a winner, thanks. This shakes your trust in American institutions. What in the world is happening on Wall Street? Created in 2002 by host Jad Abumrad, the program began as an exploration of scientific inquiry. You could just kind of Google it on the internet, see if it pops up anywhere else, what it's associated with. Oh... there's a teeny tiny chance that a team of spies rented the room next door and set up a giant antenna on the other side of the wall. Accuracy and availability may vary. They leave the coffee shop, go over to Nat's van. This is Andrei Karameto from the port town of [inaudible 00:22:14], Texas. And like, oh, weird, I was kind of hacked. Dispatch 14: Covid Crystal Ball. That way they'll be no one person that makes the entire key. Test, test. _ Support Radiolab by becoming a member today at Radiolab.org/donate. It's pulled away from the wall about, I don't know, five feet, just in case there's somebody set up next door. Can we get a side by side comparison of two different ones. Uh, Zooko has brought along some pork rinds. Oh, you find out that private messages and what's been had, had access to them. How would you identify yourself? Um, and it's a moment of creation. And was like, we'll talk about it. So I, I do it. ... then they don't know what they're gonna do. And then started loading in all the cameras and equipment. Over the years it has evolved to become a platform for long-form journalism and storytelling. In general, I'm not gonna help out. Lots of math. I just think that, uh, well I don't think I have to justify why. Post Reports: Four Hours of Insurrection. Yeah, people have, people want me to, they wanna know, like, wh- how it resolves. Test. Radiolab is one of the most beloved podcasts and public radio shows in the world. Four security cameras which were from the '80s. And then, it gets to a point m- where they finally have the final key. Is he a charismatic leader type of thing? This is Radiolab. Don't do anything that I haven't agreed to. As a two-time Peabody Award-winner, Radiolab has expanded and evolved to become a platform for long-form journalism and storytelling. Escapescape. Shall we, um, focus our attention on some sort of investigation of Morgan's phone? Peter? (laughs). In this system, in this system if somebody got a hold of the private key they could counterfeit Zcash coins. In September the stock markets crashed, the banks failed. Because, like, if there was some hacker who was planning to steal the key, they could have... You know, already planted some malware or tracking device on Zooko's personal laptop. (laughs) And then at, by this point she's taking the battery out of her phone. Zcash is a cryptocurrency build on Bitcoin's code base that is dedicated to protecting your privacy. The Ceremony. But it all starts with this number, this key. Yeah. Maybe you didn't even set the cameras up the way you said you did. You can change your cookie settings at any time by following. Ahh, what's the plan here? Was there a, like a, c- t- t- t- t- a titter in the air? So Zooko basically said just wait for our bat call. I stopped and I said, uh, wait, wait a minute. It's stopped, hasn't it? Test, test. But you were very immediately, like, the opposite. It... it was like your cat had just turned into a monster, or, and just started talking to you or like, just turned on you. So at the beginning, a lot of people saw Bitcoin as a way to sort of take the power back from the big banks that had just (beep)ed everybody over. But where's this hotel? Mm-hmm (affirmative). No, this isn't just like, I don't know, I've been, what do you mean, hacked? Falling. Radiolab is supported in part by the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, enhancing public understanding of science and technology in the modern world. She wasn't clear on the notion of ethernet. That's actually why they keep it open. And lastly, very special thanks to Morgan Peck, her, uh, reporting on the ceremony obviously was sort of the anchor for our piece, uh, and you can find her article at IEEE Spectrum. And actually, he has a huge paper map with him. Thank God there's convoluted math to save the day. Oh, so you ended in the, in the, in the, in the spirit of the whole-. Over the years it has evolved to become a platform for long-form journalism and storytelling. Radiolab Podcast - The Ceremony | Free Listening on Podbean App I think, I don't know, I'm sorry, I don't-. Do you have, uh, do you have pictures of people? (laughs). Could the ceremony be trusted. Radiolab won two of the contest’s … I'm just kinda freaked out. We drove down using our paper map with our cellphones off to the computer store. Man, I don't know h- Should we throw it in the river? Where's this coming from? Same thing DVD across the air gap, combine it with their piece of the key. I'm just hesitating for no good reason. There was an extremely active community of people who were talking about, you know, um, completely subverting the financial system, at a time when the financial system was not trusted and was collapsing. Or... oh hey, that's the new beeps video. In other words, in the ledger, you never see anyone's actual name. And throughout this entire process the individual shards of the key are kept separate and secret. What shall we do? I'm trying to think if I have to say goodbye to anyone. And then, uh, this other guy Nat showed up. Yeah, like I slept with it that night, um, in my bed. Radiolab believes your ears are a portal to another world. (laughs). So then I had to decide what shall we do? And then suddenly it just dawned on me. That's a really big problem when you have a, uh, anonymous currency. Ready? Hi, this is Will Zobb. The show is known for its deep-dive journalism and innovative sound design. Because the thing is, every one of those math steps... 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