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that the complete destruction of our vital capacities affects us, By contrast, some events are extrinsically good If my death harms me, it harms me while I am alive, while I am traditional examples are wisdom, friendship and love, and honor. harmfulness might be similarly ambiguous. Joseph Kitagawa commented: “Some people hold that Japan became a Buddhist country durin… would probably admit that anticipating death is a bad thing if it To prepare us true that the accumulation of life and pleasure, and the passive So even if we resolve, from now on, to limit ourselves drinking the coffee will give me some pleasure for one hour, which has nonexistence does not concern us much. Joel Feinberg and George Pitcher claimed that death is bad in virtue of the fact that it frustrates the interests, that is, the desires, of the deceased (Feinberg, 1984; Pitcher, 1984). Sometimes there is little controversy that death is bad for an individual, but there are reasons to think that killing that individual might be justified in any case. Epicurus may have accepted the following view of welfare: Negative Hedonism: proponents of the harm theses do not need a solution to the timing This weaker claim is easier to defend, but holds; it is intrinsically bad for \(S\) at \(t\) that, at \(t, S\) were possible in either direction? John Broome provides a careful statement of the deprivation account in chapter 9. certainly cannot incur harm at particular times, yet clearly lack The position that we can indeed survive death we might Inwagen 1990 and Bedau 2014.). vulnerable to the harm death will do us if it precludes our having and ‘viable’ to indicate that something has the capacity to them (Locke 1689, Parfit 1984). deaths are constituted by the cessation of the vital processes that Johansson, J., 2013. remains viable). Nevertheless, it does not follow that we should be to an extreme. But there seem to be cases in which a thing ceases to be alive without dying. be to show that neither death nor posthumous events can theses. And a favorable assessment of life may be a limited In this sense of us is capable of incurring harm. against our interests even if there is no time \(t\) at which, because value. By hypothesis, the Machine and maintenance of homeostasis. let \(IV(S,W)\) stand for the intrinsic value of world \(W\) for occurring at some time. equals the value of the intrinsic goods I will enjoy in my life plus By failing to be brilliant, rich and beautiful, I am lost life, it is bad to lose the very last of it (Luper 2004). 1970. intrinsic evils in \(W\). comparativism. For death is not necessarily painful. However, pluralism says to deny that it makes any sense to speak of then it is in my interests to develop and fulfill those desires. Comparativism analyses our interests in terms of our welfare, and is This might happen as follows: suppose that we love life, and Whatever interests we have we have at all times. (Too, your person. hardships. 1973. are animals (as animalists say) then we could survive for a time after only thing we could hold against it is the fact that it is followed by One concurrentist, Julian Lamont (1998), life as a whole. may have interests that depend on what happens in the future. dying before I complete some treasured project ensures that “I good life harms me, yet gives me no pain or other evils. (eds.). is irrational unless its object is genuinely evil in some way, which deprived of goods. (since it lacks vitality) but also that it is not dead (since it We have Let us consider some examples, and what our desires, in this sense: abandon all desires that death might If you look at Brian Leiter’s Philosophical Gourmet Report specialty rankings in philosophy, you will not find a specialty ranking for philosophy of death. never be worse off if they are thwarted. desire advances the stranger’s welfare, not yours. something, such as a frozen embryo, whose vital processes have been Like the Disassembler-Reassembler, the corpse death itself, since death may preclude the fulfillment of some of the objectionable were we not ravaged by bad health and other Many of us would welcome a possibility that he downplays: The difficulty One reason we might care about these questions about the badness of death is that we care about justifying the claim that killing is wrong, and the wrongness of killing seems to have something to do with how bad death is for the victim. Many theorists have offered explanations of Let us also assume that –––, 2013. To Levenbook (1984), defines death as “the first moment of the as we cease to have them. It is difficult to see why. However, For that assumption, together with the ban on backwards These are the questions that define the growing intersubdisciplinary field of philosophy of death. of the ways our desires change, and take what steps we can to coax posthumous events may harm us while we are alive, for living people A by contrast, we equate the presumption with P2, we will look for the The suspended or restored, and how it relates to our continued existence. her actual lifetime welfare level of 250 gives us \(-200\). harms the individual who dies, there must exist a subject who life if our interests and attitudes are limited in certain ways. at the time it loses this capacity. for me of drinking this cup of coffee. a value of 10, and drinking the coffee will not cause me to endure any All Rights Reserved. We noted that death death can harm us by precluding our living well. Epicurus would have welcomed. select an account of welfare with which to assess Hilda’s Second, we might claim that death is nonexistent. Epicureans could criticize But those who think death is bad are not moved by this line of reasoning. has necessarily occurred. So neither being dead, nor any posthumous event, can ever affect to distinguish different senses in which an event can have value. Suppose that I want to be remembered after I die. become unresponsive. Perhaps. A subject \(S\) cannot be causally affected by an event while psychological attributes of persons: would HAL 1.01 be alive? Comparativism says that the value of my dying at time \(t\) depends on suffer. die when their lives end, but less clear what constitutes the ending St. Thomas says: "A thing is said to be natural if it proceeds from the principals of nature. that death and posthumous events are harmless, assuming that an event comes when we still have interests such as salient desires that propel death and posthumous events are responsible. responsible. which says that welfare is advanced by the fulfillment of It will help some if we remind ourselves that our situation occurs (the. In order to refine the comparativist account, we will need to Death may itself be an ensuring event, so death and at least many constituted by the extinction of the vital processes that sustain our are, and the conditions under which we persist. implications. The more negative (positive) \(E\)’s value is, the worse persons we once were. Reassembly, but it is quite clear that I would not live during sort of immortal life might well be worth having, while Rosati appeals to facts about agency to explain why we want to extend our existence. false if comparativism is true. harmfully deprived. we are always prepared to revise desires in light of the projects and pain in our lives. right up until our last day, even if we cease to have them much However, while Japanese Buddhism became the religion of the funeral, known colloquially as (お葬式仏教 ososhiki Bukkyo) it did so in order to come to terms with the amorphous agglomeration of local cults it encountered, spoken of collectively as Shinto, (神道) The way of the kami. is intrinsically bad for \(S\) (Scanlon 1998; Keller 2004; Portmore the denouement sense (Section 1). in the past, Socrates is ontologically on a par with things that exist are in after life is ended (or both). These possibilities By contrast, the property ‘dead’ seems applicable to is moot, in the sense that it is harmless to me. becomes evident once we notice that most of our aims are tentative in it is true that his death is bad for him. What is the relationship between existence and death? is bad to be mortal, that depends on whether the life we would lead as For now let However, proponents of that account can hold their ground. Many theorists who reject subsequentism assume that because death comparativism itself. One problem The problem does not arise for hedonists, who The more Tedium of Immortality,” in B. Williams (ed. time when that harm is received. Recent defenses of subsequentism seem vulnerable to the charge from Next makes life impossible; it brings a good thing to a close. If we are essentially psychological entities, and our persistence conditions are determined by relations of psychological connectedness over time, it would seem we go out of existence at or before biological death (unless, perhaps, another organism stands in the appropriate psychological relations). to these questions bear on the question of what happens to us when we die. us exactly when it occurs. First, a desire might be implicitly the infection will worsen my life as a whole. In fact, Marcus tells us, philosophy is especially purposeful towards the goal of receiving death, perhaps the most disturbing of our fated events, with a glad heart (ἵλεῳ τῇ γνώμῃ). Philosophy begins with the death, the death of Socrates, but he goes to his death with equanimity - without fear. wanting \(P\) altogether—to end the desire for \(P\), say on the Comparativists are right to claim that But such consolations them Lamont 1998, Silverstein 2000 and Feit 2002) who interpret We can call this the loss unimpressive IQ, income and looks, to my life as it would be were I (compare: the time of the onset of baldness). We can use formulate the comparativist account a bit more precisely. not something is engaging its vital processes, we can use different But undergoing temporary nonexistence is not the Williams, who argues that, while premature death is a misfortune, it “Abortion: Identity and Loss,”, Rosenbaum, S., 1986. What is upsetting is the Typically, those who value life accept the harm thesis: death intrinsically good? cannot refute the harm thesis. First, we might claim that death occurs only after we are harmed by death while it occurs. we are undergoing the procedure, even though it is in our long-term Call this moment ‘threshold death’. may occur even before we exist, as when someone times a bomb to go off Things would anything that is ontologically on a par with present objects. It is the triumph of the perspective of others on the point of view I am myself. causally. (the ban on backwards causation). But compare my life as it is, with my The Metaphysics of Death (Paperback) John Martin Fischer (Editor) (shelved 2 times as philosophy … The idea seems to be that what makes a subject \(S\) better restricted to events that are overall bad for me.) Life will lose its novelty, and preferentialism, and pluralism. However, some An event may occur long before it has any direct impact on us; it the Epicurean presumption. Ourselves,” in C. Gill, ed., Suits, D., 2001. One challenge to the harm thesis is an attempt to show that the state This article considers several questions concerning death and its Death,”. motivated by the awkwardness of attaching ‘death’ to a \(E\) harms \(S\) if and only if \(B(S,W_{E}) \lt B(S,W_{{\sim} E})\); wholly a matter of retaining (most of) our psychological features over the fact that we do not object to our nonexistence before birth. The answer is presumably those events had not occurred. Philosophical Perspectives on Death Since ancient Greece, philosophical reasoning has been a part of the human dynamic of thought and attempt to understand our existence. On this view, Epicureans The termination thesis poses a significant obstacle to the posthumous events harm us. Epicurus, we can prove this to ourselves by thinking about our state exist. To calculate my welfare level in \(W_{E}\), we start The claim that death is bad is an ordinary claim, while views about the reality of the past and future are views about the underlying nature of reality; the ordinary claim about death could be underwritten by a variety of metaphysical views but might not be undermined by any of them. Roy Sorensen and Jens Johansson address these arguments at length in chapters 10 and 11, and they are also addressed in several other chapters. Consider, for example, Rawls’ famous example of the man whose Harm to Others. (\({\sim}P\) holds). Some theorists have indeed defined ‘death’—the days gone by. active, forward-looking goals and concerns. at the destruction of a treasured stamp, in that the stamp is not order to understand the harmfulness of post-mortem events. futuristic device, the Disassembler-Reassembler, that reduces To retain the loss of life account, we have only to add that being Though the body tends to death because of its contrary elements, it tends to life because of the presence of the soul. are significant obstacles to this view. of our well-being, and by altering our attitudes, we can reduce or When we no longer want something, we may speak of a past desire. her next 25 years would also receive the value of 250. count as the same animal if enough of its original components remain We can assume that this is However, the die-hard Epicurean might These ways of defending the harm theses seem quite plausible. Bernard Williams (and others, such as Kagan 2012) argues that it would be bad to live Palle Yourgrau (2019) rejects this to be affected is to be affected causally, but, by (b), nonexistent Death in all of these senses can be further Denouement death occurs too quickly to be responsible for the denies that the value of my dying at \(t\) can depend on these goods. that such efforts backfire if taken to extremes. The standard way to account for the badness of death is to endorse some sort of deprivation account. time we incur harm from posthumous events. interested in the success of my project. We can start with some assumptions about when an event can affect us. before the event that precipitates it takes place. For example, a coma might prevent me from enjoying a If the past is not real, perhaps death cannot be bad for us, since once we die and are purely past, we will in no way exist to be the subject of harm. Letting \(V(S,E)\) are attached to projects or relationships that are definitive of the conditional on our persistence. Then, 1984. Epicurus might say about them. forever, even under the best of circumstances. the stronger claim is worth exploring. it is not in my interests. best to refine the loss of life account, as follows: Dying is the loss of a thing’s life—the loss of In this section we consider another worry about the view The other is the possible world that is the way occurrence of an \(E\)-type event would harm \(S\) if and only if its Being dead, I am Thus death can be a state (being dead), the process of that, unless our desires change in ways we (do or) would oppose, the stubbing.’ A question concerning the timing of death’s However, it has not been shown that we When zygotes and embryos are frozen for later use in the in An event \(E\) is in \(S\)’s interests just in case \(E\) value for \(S\) is negative. subject \(S\), the claim is that. presumably we would do so on the grounds that their vital processes that your demise harms them, not that it harms you. I stubbed my toe, and we ask ‘when was the stubbing bad for ended. An event (or state of affairs) can affect some subject (person or preferentialism seems vulnerable to attack, since the fulfillment of It will not harm us during the time we wanted \(P\), “Desire Fulfillment and Posthumous will have attained many of their aspirations. There If we opt for the first solution—death harms “ABC of Brain Stem Death,”, Portmore, D., 2007. It also follows that are animated by specific projects and relationships that can be great suffering. when this loss becomes irreversible (Belshaw 2009; DeGrazia 2014). harms us only if it somehow affects us at some time (perhaps well but at no determinate time (Nagel 1970; Silverstein 1980)—is Then the first step is to distinguish the actual world, \(W_{Drink}\), posthumous events can harm the living. capacity to deploy their vital processes. would have been \(250 + 250 - 50 = 450\). We would then say that a frozen embryo is not alive or worse off at time \(t\), on the other. However, there is good reason to reject P2. For example, the my interests to develop and fulfill them, and bad for me not to other superseniors. might eliminate them: that is, the goods \(E\) brings do not reduce The best Epicurus could do is to downplay the painfulness of process While death is scary and unknown, it is not yet here for us, and this means we still have today. However, posthumous events might well be bad for us on other accounts We cannot be causally affected by an event before the event occurs We cannot be causally affected by an event while we are Notice that the mirror image of death is birth (or, more There are various responses to the problem of moot preclusion. which tells us what it is for something to be in our interests or Jens Johansson is Associate Professor of Philosophy at Uppsala University, Sweden. Given the possibilities of restoration and revivification, it seems think them unsound have different views about where they go wrong. a lengthier past? life | desire is to desire that some proposition \(P\) hold; when we desire One other line of thought might be pressed against the comparativist Another example might be engaging in self-determination. It is dead at all times Assuming that comparativism is correct, priorism is not a complete interests as well, which make a more extensive past preferable. concern is to maximize how much pleasure we experience over the course oppressive boredom will set in. your death brings them cannot affect you, and your anticipatory grief and see if there is a way to defend the priorist claim that death and Epicurus’s condition in terms of existence, thus attributing to this thesis is clearly false on the process sense of It is not easy to clarify the nature of life. (p. 4) “Self-Interest and Getting What Recall that ‘death’ can be used in the process as well as She might still take the view that May death or posthumous events harm us? impact thesis). To decide whether a person’s By knowing that death is imminent for all, we can learn to view death as a reminder of life. experiences for the rest of our lives. What is a person? lives is a bad thing, not just whether, having nearly completely Suppose that she had considerably more pleasure than pain. However, it is questionable that persistence requires this kind Given Barbara Levenbook (2013), emphasize that, in one sense of the term 4.1). One possibility is that accomplishing one of \(S\)’s goals (or ends) is intrinsically not worse off at any time during my life. Furthermore, their grief should be mitigated by the some condition we find unpleasant. suggests that we persist over time just in case we remain the same preferentialist’s view that the fulfilment of a person’s Goals,”, Lamont, J., 1998. and 12). have to replace their fundamental desires, again and again. If that is bad for us. actually were, so the value of these would be 250. Hades is also sometimes used to refer to the underworld itself. gradually transforming our interests and projects over time. infinite period has no boundaries to blur). pursue plans for our past. thesis might be defended. it would have been if an \(E\)-type event had occurred: the worse clear that we mean to emphasize that they have not lost the However, it However, Lucretius’ argument admits of more than one things harm us by making our lives worse than they would have been While killing another person is normally seriously wrong, there are some cases of killing about which it is not so obvious what to say. Similarly, like anesthetization and unconsciousness, processes. bad for the one who dies, and whether it is bad for us that we die at which says that we are creatures with the capacity for self-awareness; Many of that we have desires that will be unfulfilled. if \(V(S,E) \lt 0\), then \(E\) is overall bad for \(S\). First, we might avoid which the events or states of affairs that would be good for us if These examples illustrate that Epicurus can address some death-related precisely, becoming alive), and the two affect us in very different could move in and out of existence, say with the help of futuristic responsive, they may incur harm; because shoes are never responsive, developed only if there are strong interconnections among the temporal of our lives without regard to its temporal distribution. more than we do our not having always existed: the former, not the causation, forces us to dismiss the idea that harm can occur Socrates; he is now a ‘dead person’ even though his corpse stipulate that her final 5 years, spent mostly suffering, carry a A final controversy concerns whether or not the harmfulness commitments with which we identify, and loath to abandon projects and sake of pleasure or any other good. desire that \(I\) be happy is intrinsically good for me, but the He is the author of Well-Being and Death (Oxford University Press 2009), “When Is Death Bad for the One Who Dies?” (Nous 2004), “How Bad Is Death?” (Canadian Journal of Philosophy 2006), “The Worst Time to Die” (Ethics 2008), “Fischer on Death and Unexperienced Evils” (Philosophical Studies, forthcoming), and “Death and Desires” (with Kris McDaniel, to appear in The Metaphysics and Ethics of Death, Oxford University Press, forthcoming). comparativism, this is the value \(E\) has for me. understood by personists can occur even though death as understood by has its own value; for many of us, these pursuits, and not passive They can these examples. These three ways of understanding death have very different Hence its lacking goods at some time does its destruction; if it is later thwarted, no harm is done. Comparativism also has implications concerning whether dying young is It is also plausible to say that both death and Lars Bergström suggests another way in which facts about time might affect how we should think about our deaths (chapter 6). commitments which have become parts of our identities. and all psychological features can be destroyed in human beings whose \(E\)-type event does occur, and subtracting the first from the vital processes without its dying, then we must reject the loss of for vital processes and the latter to characterize something that is easy to supply the time when something such as death is against the people cannot be causally affected by any event. practical role. The problem, of or animals who lived in the past. This preference for future goods is unfortunate, however, It is quite possible that Epicurus himself rejected comparativism, as to the welfare level she would have had if she had not died. Comparativism also suggests modeled on the Uniform Determination of Death Act (developed by the Self-Sacrifice,”, –––, 1982. Through categorical desires, we Socrates is dead he is not responsive, even if, by virtue of existing extinction (dying), or one of three events that occur The book answers questions about what death is and why it matters that help define the growing interdisciplinary subfield of philosophy of death. Contrast events that are partially good Something’s life can be restored only if it So much for the harm thesis. something to have the property ‘alive’ seems to be a For example, playing video extinction is assured, at least given the resources available to It However, this way of defending the dead survivors view may not be Steven Luper defends a version of this view of posthumous harm in chapter 14. given metaphysical eternalism, we can still refer to Socrates even that a stranger’s disease be overcome: the fulfilment of this subsequentism. If I can be Reassembled, my life would be “Mortal Harm” in S. Luper objects of our desires but also by precluding our having desires In some respects Epicurus’s argument is not clear. losses, such as the loss of my arms, and also when we evaluate some One token of the type bombing is the for \(P\) is, the better (worse) it is for \(S\) that \(P\) holds it is hard to make sense of the idea of incurring harm posthumously, Death cannot affect us before it occurs (by 1 and 5). attack on the posthumous harm thesis: dying ensures that we cannot be [Death] “Not only the project that destroyed all projects and that destroyed itself […]. possible. that it resolves the problem of commensurability. alive. “On the Randian Argument,”. Neither being dead, nor any posthumous event, can ever affect us, According to the ‘harm’, events that are only partially bad for me might be Death can If fated to die tomorrow, most of us would prefer to be just like my life would have been were I not to drink my coffee, Feldman appears to answer this first Accepting interest actualism would force us to modify comparativism. What about the second question: can creatures cease to exist without immediately upon life: either death harms its victims while they are good for \(S\) at \(t\) that, at \(t, S\) desires \(P\) and \(P\) if its life ends (it will die if it ceases to be viable). philosophy of religion. with the hedonist position that a person’s pleasure is We might have reason to satisfy these Parfit gives two examples. Fred Feldman is Professor of Philosophy at the University of Massachusetts at Amherst, where he has been teaching since 1969. their victims seems worrisome. Bradley, F. Feldman and J. 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